I like #1 at the end best. Eve's list would include at least 26, because we would have to add bad forum posters.

Most of those don't apply to Eve.

Eve players in general are some of the most retardedly annoying people I know though.

The article is pretty accurate for online console gamers.

According to the article, the only thing you're allowed to do in a game is... umm... nothing?
Screw that.

If someone annoys me, I'm not going to complain about it and make an article about it to vent my tears.
Instead, I'm going to annoy them. So should everyone else.

25. gender swappers - really? A problem?
24. Clan players - this is supposed to be a problem in some raid or similar group where players of the leaders clan are placed above random pick-up-groupers. Doesn't apply to Eve. And neither do I see it as a problem really.
23. achievement hoarders - Eve doesn't have achievements
20. spoilers - eve doesnt have spoilers
18. laggers - This only applies to those playing on peer-to-peer online games. In a MMO when one person lags its just their problem, not anybody elses.
12. Glitchers - nuff said. I guess there has been some exploits in eve but I wouldnt call that a problem. Or CCP has dealt with them quickly.
11. Singers - you don't have to use voicecomms if you dont want to. Contrary to say PS3.
9. backstabbers - This is a virtue in Eve
8. happy campers - normal for Eve
7. rage quitter - lol
6. poor losers - I fail to see this annoying in Eve
5. poor winners - see above
4. bad language - I assume were all adults here
3. cheats - lol see parts 5 and 6
2. spawn killers - due to the way death works in Eve this is cannot even exist in Eve
1. griefers - virtue in Eve

I'm sure I could think of many ways, but first you must answer the real question; Why would we want to?

Biggest issue are people like this




who are so numerous, they make meaningful discussion about anything pretty much impossible. And were the thing I was referring to by "retardedly annoying".

You can post longer posts than one line if you try. This is not IRC.

Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked.

I shall endeavor to elaborate.

I take it as a badge of honor, much like my (shamefully low at present) character bounty, to be blocked by people. I chalk that up as one more win, one more notch on the edge of my mousepad.

I enjoy it because I actually find it exciting when people get really mad at me. I love making people angry and just keep winding them up until they write full paragraph replies about what an awful human being I am. I find it hilarious and satisfying.

This is not true. As I have stated many times before on these forums, we were all new players once. We've all been through the meatgrinder that is the hazing stage of EVE Online, and we all came out the other side stronger for it, more bound in the community, wiser to the way of EVE Online. 10 year vets aren't 10 year vets cuz they had it easy, or because they quit. They are vets because they had it hard. Making it 'nicer' or 'less annoying' for new players does not foster the calibre of player that becomes a vet and sticks around for the long term.

No, the reason people quit is because they don't adapt to and learn their environment. EVE is social Darwinism at its finest - only the strongest will survive. The weak will quit, and you know what? That's fine by me.

The truth is that you can't make EVE community less annoying.

Trolls love trolling and as**oles will always be as**oles.

You don't annoy us. What gave you that funny idea?

Please, keep posting. Every court needs its jesters.

What myth about unequal pay?

Have women finally achieved pay parity with men and no one told me?

Believe it or not there are women playing this game, i think there's even a chat channel for women of eve.

i doubt they post on the forums though. that would be like <1% of <10% of the player base, statistically.

EDIT: or the other way around. 'not many' is the point.

Certainly more than yours. But if you want to dig up statistics that show every report on the subject matter published in the last decade to be wrong, or that the last 10GÇô20% of the gap (and I'm being very generous against many western countries here) have really been slam shut in less than a year, then please do so.

So, again, what you're saying is that you aren't familiar with how unequal pay plays out in practice.

I don't deny that there are male feminists who do so for brownie points and don't actually care about equality. There are also feminists who completely misrepresent the issues, and others who are so radical and antagonistic they alienate potential supporters.

But there are also those who genuinely believe that there are important issues we still need to discuss and work on.

sooo...errrhm. what? are you implying a woman can't be attractive and intelligent? I think that's a bit stereotypical lol to say the least.

That article is about as useful as **** on a boar hog.

I like the part where the report says that the wage disparity is ...just 21.5%...

I can just imagine if the pay gap favoured women, men saying, well that's all right then, things are getting better, no need to push for more equality now...

So you're saying equality can only be achieved when part time workers and people in lower paying fields can earn as much as full time workers and people in higher paying fields. That's not equality, it's the exact opposite.

Can we keep your homophobic attitudes off this forum please? It's disruptive.

You're being disingenuous. Those factors don't account for all (and probably not even most) of the disparity. If they did, controlling for these factors should cause the gap to disappear. But it doesn't. It also fails to investigate (unless I missed it, but you can't seriously expect me to read the entire 95 page report) why women are more likely to take part-time jobs or work in lower paying fields. This might be tied to discrimination. It might not be.

I would also like to point out once again that even if there weren't a wage gap, we're still only talking about a very small part of the larger issue.

I have long since ceased to care if some random fellow or fellows on a video game or forum or any other electronic media believe I am a woman or not. if someone asks for my gender, i'll provide that information. what they do with it in their minds from there is totally on them. matters not to me one bit. just because so and so from such and such game doesn't believe when I tell them doesn't mean I magically grow a *****.

however, not to give too much credit to doubters...if I saw someone named lady areola fappington claiming to be a woman even someone as easy going and uncaring about such things as myself might raise an eyebrow.

Oh my god what happened to the eve forums??? It's tumblr, youtube and the social justice warrior blogsphere all rolled into one. We're all gonna die!!!! Aaarrggghh.

For EVE, just two out of the list apply for me: poor winners and poor losers.

I don't doubt the importance of her feedback, but what do you intend to do with it? Why do you think preventing this type of behaviour is necessary?

Eve is supposed to be a toxic gaming environment. It's an important part of how the game works. There is already an EULA in place which prevents that kind of behaviour from getting out of control, no further measures are required.

Okay, good luck with that.

I hate you so so so much

I stole three T3s, all the uniques and pretty much all the items from a player who had sold his car for rent and was keeping his account going on the spare change he'd left over because his life was so poor and awful, EvE was the only thing he enjoyed.

I considered it a mercy killing.

I'm pretty sure the most annoying EvE players are the ones who post lists of annoying gamers.

Exactly, if you can somehow list 25 types of people you hate within a subculture that you yourself are part of, you should probably start reviewing why you dont have many friends.

What's wrong with unicorns? They are basically a horse but they also have a weapon. They could do you some serious damage I think.